Yeah. I think that's the nerve. I'm not too worried about watching me my carcass bounce down the hill. I'm more worried about the fallout because we started the filming process, like, a couple weeks after I got home from the hospital. And so the I don't know. I I I was a I don't hate to call myself a crazy person because that's a negative connotation. I had a brain injury. I was an injured brain person, but I exhibited like a like a freaking crazy person. So, like, they they pointed a camera at me and said, talk as much as you want. And mania Brandon is like, yes. It's what I always wanted. And so I'm a bit, to to see what comes out of the all the all that. So that's more where I'm nervous. For me, the so to to hear the disruption, and know that it's it's not a I'm not proud of the way that that manifested itself. I'm not happy that it's gonna be portrayed that I'm probably a huge dick, following my brain injury, because I was, and that's fair. It's interesting to be like, oh, is that what I'm really like when my inhibitions are turned off? Like, it it kinda makes you feel a little introspective and a bit, you know, like, you gotta really look at the the darkness in there or I hate to say darkness, but, you know, the dark side of that. But it was so fun for me. I was loving it. I mean, it's insane. It's like doing all the best drugs in the world all day every day, and you don't care how you affect other people, and you're just, like, on this freaking hoo ah. It's it was, like, really awesome for me. I it was look. I don't know if it's how the universe works out or how brain injuries work out, but, like, it was so helpful in my recovery. It was like, I'm gonna do all the workouts. I'm gonna do all the self growth. I'm gonna do all the stuff. Like, I was so driven, like, to to achieve they say you can't ever really go back to your life before a brain injury. There's no going back. There's only this, like, new path, this new version of what you're gonna get, and you have to just be really satisfied with that version or you're just gonna be super depressed. That's I'm guilty of that, but, like, you gotta nip that in the butt as quick as possible. The mania was, like, that didn't exist. I didn't have sadness. I didn't I had to, like, teach myself to cry. So listen to sad music and and candlelight and be like, oh, I can do it. And since he would wake up and I'd be bawling and the and she's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm crying. I got it. It's like, it's like crazy stuff that I was doing because I was, like, committed that I was gonna, like, regrab that spark of life that I had prior to the accident. I wasn't gonna let the accident be a a bad thing. I wasn't gonna let it define the downfall of my life. It was gonna be the catalyst that ignited this, like, bright brilliance of my life. So, hopefully, some of that comes out of it too where it's inspirational and not just like the rantings of a crazy person.

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Yeah. I feel I feel like like, if you gave me a time machine, said Brandon, go back in time and tell yourself not to speed fly that day, I would never do that. I think it's been a super powerful thing that happened to me. It needed to happen to me, like, to get me out of the the weird, drug addiction to speed flying that I had. It gave us our son. Like, there's so many things that came out of this. So, like, I would never not have it happen. It's critical to to my even even now I'm dealing with the still dealing with so many so much fallout. But, like, I'd rather deal with the fallout and, like, learn and grow and, like, have something come of this rather than just kinda, like, give up, if that makes sense.

Yeah. And, Cincy, do you look back on it with the same sort of gratitude that Brandon does? Because like you said, a lot of it landed on you. And, you know, from our first conversation, obviously, the work that you do around empowering people and building confidence and setting boundaries, it's like, god. It's like you were perfectly engineered to deal with this if anyone could.

Thank you. It's it's a tough one because I agree that we've had so much growth out of it. And as we talk about we spoke about in the beginning of this conversation before the accident and after the accident, it was more singular versus us as a family. And so it's simply that shift where it's like we're in this together. We can do this together is extremely powerful. And as I had mentioned on our first time together, Bob, it's that hard the more you experience hardship, the more that you have a capacity for love. I really do believe in that. And so everything that you experience that's difficult and hard increases your capacity as a human for more hardship, more challenge, more growth. And the human brain is actually something called antifragile, which means that we we need hard experiences in order to continue to expand, and the brain thrives on overcoming challenges. If you don't have something in front of you that allows you to grow, we make up challenges. We make up problems, and that's often how we self sabotage because we're looking for things to overcome. And so it's good for us to have hardship. And I don't wanna say that I'm

Come on. Say it. You're happy. Alright.

Come on. Say it.

I wasn't happy that happened, but I'm grateful in the tools that I have and had and have to continue to be resilient.

Well, I remember you you in our first conversation, and I wrote it down, you cited a quote from the prophet. The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain. You got emotional when you were talking about that the first time, and I love that. I've never forgotten that. But I also wonder, like, how do you how do you hang on to that in the moment? Like, when this is going on, you must be, like, for fuck's sakes, like, enough already. Like, haven't I yeah. Okay. Like, it's okay to look back. It's easier to look back in retrospect and say that. But in the moment, how do you find some sort of gratitude or trust that this is happening for a good reason?

That's an extremely great question.

I got it. I got it.

Oh, okay. Right now is the answer.

Go ahead. When you're in those hard things where it's like, holy moly. How am I gonna deal with this? It's kind of the same as if you were staring at the bottom of Mount Everest, and you're like, I'm gonna go to the top, but holy moly. Like, how there's no way I can deal with this. Like, the avalanches, the crevasses. I gotta base camp. I gotta, like, deal with the giant refuse piles. I gotta do that one like, Everest is, like, a daunting thing. But the easiest way to kind of get rid of that is just to look at what you can do right now and or just in one day. What's the one thing that you can do that gets you one step closer to Everest? Because if you just put your head down and don't focus on the huge overwhelming problem yeah. It's not going anywhere. Everest is still looming over you. But if you just kinda don't look at it in that same light, you look how beautiful it is, you look how blue the glaciers are, take a few steps, sit down, have a sandwich, You're gonna get to the top. Like, is everyone is so hung up on I need now. Now now now now now. I want my solution now. I don't wanna do the work. I want it now. I want my Amazon Prime now. And so you get attached to these results happening really fast, and you forget that, like, one step a day, like, gets you really far in in a year. You know? Like, they they quote the Egyptians built the pyramids, how they do it one rock at a time. It's like, yeah. Okay. Literally, you just show up and put a rock in, and then someone else shows up and puts a rock in, and you get to amazing things with small digestible things that let you not look at the large problem. And during that time, when you're taking those small steps, you you like I said, you look around. You say, wow. It's so beautiful here. I'm so grateful that I took a break to stay here. Or you have a moment where you run into another person. You're like, how was the journey up there? And, like, well, it's crazy. You don't wanna go up there today. And you're like, great. I'm gonna hang out right down here. And so you just find a way to to, like, get some distance between you and the and the big picture by looking down and focus in focusing in, like, narrowing in. And that really is a helpful thing when you're dealing with a lot of crazy adversity, in my opinion.

I'll add to that because Brandon said something that I also really believe to be true, which is the presence piece. The more we are present in our bodies and can create safety in our bodies with right where we're at, the less everything feels overwhelming and too big to handle. And so during that time, one of the things that I really focused on, and and I maybe had said this in our first conversation together, but my breath best friend at the time had said to me, Sensei, your only job because I was running my swimwear business at that time and, like, coming back from the hospital and trying to be like, what do we do? And then find out I was pregnant. I was just like, oh my gosh. But she's like, your only job is to take care of you and this baby and your husband during this talk. That's your only job. And so coming back into how do I just take care of me, myself, and my husband? And in that order, me, my my myself, my baby, my husband, was was being in the present moment. And, thankfully, I've done a lot of work on knowing what I need as a human, introspection and and revelations around what supports me. And so carving time for that self care, for lack of a better word, but going back to basics. Did I drink water today? Did I can I get outside for a walk? What can I focus on in just the present moment here and now that I can both be grateful for, whether that's looking up at the glacier and saying, oh my gosh, how blue and beautiful it is, or, trying to regulate my nervous system to say, I'm okay? And right now, I'm okay. Because a lot of times when we stop, when we look in just this moment, we are okay.

Yeah. And I think I mean, one of the silver linings, if you wanna call it that, when we have tragedy strike like this is that life gets really simple really fast. And all of that other shit that you worried about and maybe it, you know, this would happen if you went back through that Instagram story and you're like, yeah, I wonder what that guy or that, you know, wonder what she was worried about that day. It's like, right? Self, husband, baby. That's it. Nothing else. And yet, I often think about this this idea of, like, radical gratitude too because it's easy to be grateful for, hey. I'm, you know, I'm healthy and my baby's healthy and my husband is recovering, or my wife is amazing. But it's like finding gratitude in those really impossible things that you would never wish on anybody. It seems like that is a big thing as well, which kinda kinda kinda goes to the core of what you were talking about.

Yeah. Definitely. And I will say, you know, Bobby, you're like, oh, didn't you feel, like, at a certain point, like, this is enough? Like, why am I getting served up with another hardship? Because I have had a lot of trauma happen in my life. My mom died when I was sixteen years old. My dad's been incarcerated twice in federal prison. My younger brother was shot. I've had a lot of trauma, but we all have. And in that initial reaction after Brandon's accident, besides the overwhelming grief and sadness that had come up and the not knowing what's gonna happen, there was a bit of why. Why is this happening to me? What's the lesson here? Why do I need another, hardship? I I feel like I've gone through my fair share of traumas and hardship. I don't understand why I'm getting served up another one. And I was stuck in that for a little bit.

Is that your violin that you're plumber? The world's tiniest violin?

I was stuck in, why did this happen to me? And, thankfully, I worked through that pretty quickly, but I think that's a key to it as well is allowing yourself to be in the grief and to be in the sadness of it and I'm letting yourself feel that way. That's okay. That's okay. Because we can't always move into gratitude extraordinarily quickly, but it is focusing on those small steps of self care. The only things that matter are the here and now, and what can I focus on, making the world really small, feeding ourselves? The community came through huge in that aspect, dropping off meals to us. And then slowly slowly, it's this is what I can continue to to focus on, which is we have a roof over our heads. We're making progress. The baby's kicking. All these things that, is a choice. I will say it's a choice. You get to choose what you focus on. What you focus on expands. And so training myself to look for the things that are beautiful and joyful in life, even if it is hard, it's okay.

Well, then I wanted to ask you about, maybe I'll ask you this first, Scentsy, and then Brandon, I'd love to get your take on this. This idea of because when the first conversation, Scentsy, we talked about your why and helping people, helping empower people and and find and express their amazing humanness. You did a better job of it than I just did. But I wonder if that's changed, whether it's changed from being a mom or whether it's changed from the injury. How you think about that? Because and I'll tell you why I asked because I think a lot of people get crippled with this purpose anxiety. Like, oh my god. I don't know what my purpose is. And I think it's okay for it to change. And if it's you don't have to know your life's purpose, certainly when you're twenty or twenty five or thirty or if in my in my case, fifty five, it's okay. Just find something that's meaningful and move in that direction, and it might change.

Yeah. I love that you point that out because I think we get stuck in that a lot as humans that we're like, find your passion, follow your passion. And I remember for a really long time, I was like, I don't know where my passion is. What do you mean? Like, I want I wrote in my journal, I just wanna be passionate. Like, that was something that I wanted to focus on. I was like, I wanna be passionate about my work. That was a value of mine. And I felt almost crippled with inaction because I was like, I don't know where the heck my passion is. So I agree that that's not something that we should be teaching people at all because I think you could actually go through life and not find anything that is, quote, your passion. But what I think is more important is that you just allow yourself to try things, and I think that's where we get stuck a lot in I'm gonna continue with this job because it's what I know. It's safe. I've done it for twenty years. I'm gonna keep doing that even though I don't feel passionate about it or even though I don't love it. And that's where we need to release and say, it's okay to not know and give yourself permission to try something. And, actually, in the book Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert, she tells a story about uncovering what she wanted to do next. After she wrote eat, pray, love, the mega hit, where she had best selling book and movies, like, you can't get really, you can't really top that. She was crippled with, what do I do next? How can I find my next thing I'm passionate about? How do you follow-up a mega bestseller? And she tells a story about starting to garden and something that she was just a tiny bit interested in, and so she just started gardening in her yard. And then she discovered a flower that she was excited about, and then she started looking into the history of that flower. And she learned about how the flower came over, on a boat and was imported from England way back in the day. And she uncovered this whole story around this flower, and long story short, that became the epicenter of her next book. And she talks about pulling on the thread of possibility where we allow ourselves to follow the inkling of anything that we're interested in or excited about to uncover what's next for us. And I think that's how I've been able to finally do the work that I am passionate about, which is I've tried a ton of stuff, And I've done a lot of introspection and personal development work around revealing what lights me up, and I'm thankful to align with what, the Japanese called your ikigai, which is the juxtaposition, the intersection of what you love to do, what you can get paid for, what the world needs, and what you're good at intersect. And so all that to say, I think you just need to allow yourself to try things.

Yeah. Well, I love that so much, Sensei. I love that big magic book. I just read it, like, in the last couple of months. And so, Brandon, I'm wondering from your perspective, like, it and it reminds me of this idea of curiosity. Like, it does feel like this idea of curiosity and giving us the freedom, like you said, Cindy, to try new things. I wonder how that showed up for you, Brandon, because all of these things that you used to love doing and chasing, you know, being addicted to flow, what do you do when you can't throw yourself off mountains anymore? How do you chase that?

Oh, man. Complicated one, because as as a as that does something for my brain, that I crave. Right? So you need to find and engineer new and exciting ways for you to get to that same location, I guess, in your brain chemistry. There I read a couple books. The one that really stood out to me was called The Rise of Superman. It's it's in particular about why action sports, are pushing the the progress of human possibilities. Like like you said, X Men, you're, like, flying down this mountain. So there's something about risk that, amplifies that that that state that gets you to where you can believe that you can do impossible things. And so just like any good old drug addict, I was, like, craving that, like, crazy. So after reading the book, I was inspired that his whole thing is, like, hey. That's great that action sports risk their lives, but, like, what can you as a normal person learn from this? How can you apply this? And you talk a lot about how, people in business are really trying to get their engineers and their workers to access this brain state because this is where the the magic happens, the moments. And so there is benefits to engineering it in other ways. And, historically, we didn't have to, like, jump out of a plane to get there. There was there was ways that we got there. It's was through communication. So deep conversation. You ever be in a conversation with someone that's so engrossing that you you're like, where did the four hours go? Like, wait. What? You lose track of time. You like, that that's flow state. That gets you there. Music, man, music for sure can get you there. You're lost in a riff, especially if you're playing with other people. That that communication, the symbiosis that happens in music. So for me, immediately, I was drawn to the piano. I've I love playing the piano. I had to have a hobby kind of before the accident. I play dabble here and there. We have one in our house. Now I try to play the piano almost every day. It's so wonderful for your brain and your and your, dexterity and, like, all the things you need. You can do it quietly. You can put on headphones. You don't bother anybody. The one that was, like, the easy one for me too was I got into, FPV drones. So I don't know if you're familiar with what this is. It's it's like, it's a drone, which is like a flying helicopter. They go really fast or they can depending on what you buy. And then they wirelessly transmission to a headset. So you put on, like, what looks like a VR goggle headset, and, you instantly become a bird because you you then are wherever that drone is. And guess what? If you crash the drone, it just costs money. It doesn't cost your body physically. It still sucks when you crash your drone. They're, like, expensive. So there's still risk. So fun. And, for me, I had a lot of visuospatial disruption. It's sense he, commented about how I they almost lost my eye. I had a lot of impact to my to my vision and and the optical center related to that. I had a lot of, issues with my visuospatial balance. I had insane amounts of nausea to the point of, like, vomiting quite regularly. So I needed with my goal to be I'm gonna be on a hydrofoil, which is a lot of visuospatial information, balance. My balance was immediately, compromised. Like, in the hospital, they were like, balance. And I laughed at them because I had mania. I was like, I'll show you how to balance. I could balance with my eyes open kind of with a broken back and all that stuff. They would they would really wouldn't wanna let me do it, but I'd do it anyways. And then they'd be like, close your eyes. And I close my eyes. I fall over instantly. Or put your feet in a straight line and balance. Fall over instantly. I'm like, uh-oh. Time to get to work. So how do we how do we get ourselves through that in a safe way that also gets flow state? I got on a simulator, so I was able to sit. I would sit on a medicine ball, and then I'd be, like, steering the drum. I'd be like, oh, and I'd, like, have to, like, like, kinda, like, stabilize myself and my spine and all that stuff. We went to California. Remember, I was obsessed. I made your cousin drive me around to spots just to fly my drone.

Forgot about the drone. It was like Well, this is one thing we need.

Tons of money on drones.

On the side, Bob, Brandon and speaking of the curiosity, he was so into different things after the brand new Bone

arrow archery.

He bought he was going to the archery.

I bought a five hundred dollar compound bow.

He was biased. I'm like, oh my goodness.

I had to give her my get too many control of my money because I was like, I I don't believe in money. I just buy anything. The Internet is so easy. Just click a button, and it shows up. You're like, yeah. I'm buying that. I'm buying that. I'm buying that.

He bought so many drones. I was like but, you know, I was like, okay. This is good, and it gives him something to do because he has so much energy and curiosity and just, like, wanting to do stuff. I was like, we have to do something. Yeah. So is there anything else you got? The bone arrow and the drum, the camera?

The piano. I was, into breath work. I was, like, holding my doing holding breath holdings.

You walked out on the street punching this ball. Oh, I had the I had

a head ball that you punch. It's like a it's like a workout thing, but it really helps with, like, the perception in and out of space and my balance. So I'd walk to my hyperbaric chamber punching my ball. I'd go in my hyperbaric chamber. I'd hold my breath for five minutes, and then I'd go home and I'd go on a cold plunge for, like, ten minutes. I I could do anything I put my mind to. And that's why kiteboarding is so rad because I was able to go from, like, you ride with a twin tip, you ride with a surfboard, you ride with a foil, you jump really high in the air. It never gets stale. It's, like, always can bring something each time. And the long the long goal site, which didn't take that long, was, like, I'm getting back on the hydrofoil because that you can't really jump super high. You're not going super fast. I see, like, seventy year old people do it every day here in the gorge, so I know it's approachable. It's It's a sound bite. But, like, hydrofoiling basically, like, saved my life because, like, if I didn't have the access to that and I didn't have that as a motivator to get me, I don't know if I'd still be a dizzy goo crying my eyes out because of, like, how much I had to put in to, like, get that goal. Helped me recover, like, massively considering the the what normally happens with brain injuries, basically. Yeah.

Well and that's a couple of things about that, and it's actually a good segue into the documentary. I didn't realize that you hadn't seen it. Who did you make the documentary for, and what do you hope people take away from it?

Yeah. So I think the goal is broad. I would love that almost anyone could watch it. I'm not sure. It's it's sport. It's injury. It's it's growth. It's kind of a little niche, but the goal is to take anybody who's given a life changing circumstance. In our case, it was an accident, so a lot of trauma. For some people, it's having a baby. That's a pretty big life change. And a lot of people are gonna do that. So we did that one, at the same time. It's a real story about a relationship, you know, working on your relationship through through diversity. And so I'm hoping that there's some something a lot of people can glean from it. I'd hate to say if you're broken and put out, watch this and you're gonna be, like, stoked. I don't wanna say it's for broken people, but, the goal would be just to inspire people because this is gonna maybe sound crazy, but, when I had mania, I was I felt that, like, this thing was coming through me. I felt like I needed to inspire people, that I needed to take advantage of this, that I, like, I have journal after journal after post after post of all this thing that I wanna do, all these inspirations. Like, we need to bottle this up and, like, get this. And it made me really think, like, you know, those historical figures that you think of that inspired generations of people. Like, who's to say they didn't get hit in the head with a rock or fall down or have some malnutrition? You can get in trauma in a lot of different ways. And so I was convinced that, like, this this thing was, like, coming out, and I wanted to, like, encapsulate that in the best way possible. And at the time, I just wanted to talk, and and I know movies, and I kinda worked in action sports. I was like, man, feel like there's something here. So the target would be to inspire other people that through growth, through trauma, and through change that you can lead a a wonderful existence and and how to take those those lessons that I learned the hard way and hopefully apply them to your life without having to learn them the absolute hard way. Like, a gentle nudge rather than what I got, which is like a big bat to the head or something, you know, basically. Right. Like, you think of a lobster or crustacean. K? This is a little abstract of off topic, but it's a good analogy. They have to molt. Right? And molting is the process of breaking their shell and, like, going into a new exoskeleton. Bugs do this too. You think of like a like a caterpillar becoming a butterfly or beetles growing, but crab is the easiest one. Just before they molt, they, like you think of their soft pink gooey body on the inside of that shell. It's expanding. It's, like, uncomfortable. It's squished. It's like, this sucks. Like, I give me it's uncomfortable. And they go and they hide and they do a little self growth. They do a little breath work. Whatever they do, we don't know what they do, under a rock or whatever. And they split open the the exoskeleton, which is a a whole process. They have to break and molt and and out comes this gooey soft arthropod, and you have to, like it has to hide for a little bit until it becomes strong. And but what's great about that is every time they molt, they get bigger. There's a lot of uncomfortable time where you're, like, squeezed in your little shell, but you have to be comfortable with being squeezed to expand. And that's a really great nature analogy, about growth.

I love that. And those crabs too, when they move into a new shell, that new shell doesn't really fit at first. Right? And so they have to grow into that new version of themselves too. Yeah. Man, crustacean talk. I love that. What about you, Scentsy? Like, what are you what is the documentary about for you?

It's about resilience and overcoming adversity. We were in the hospital when the producer reached out to us, and at first, I was like, what? Someone wants to do with doctor Mary? Like, we're I don't even know. What are you talking about? The guy is actually a kite porter, so a friend a friend of a friend connected us. And my whole goal with it with with doing it and putting our story out there because it is vulnerable. As as I mentioned, we haven't even seen it yet, and we're nervous about how, well, how vulnerable it is. But the whole intention is to inspire others to believe in themselves through hardship and adversity. And we're all gonna experience trauma. No. There's no no one's trauma is greater than any others, and, it's about human connection and, creating empathy. Like, we're all in this together, and that was one one of the biggest things through this is how much we can grow with the power of community and connection. And, I think one other subnote of that is the grace that we can extend to other humans because you never know what someone's going through. And as we spoke to you with the Invisible Injury piece, everyone is going through their own form of trauma and hardship. And the more grace that we can extend to other humans, the more love and compassion we'll have on this planet.

I mean, think how many people in the modern world are struggling with mental health issues, whether that's anxiety, depression, there's, like, paranoia. I mean, they go it goes up the wazoo. And I can say for a fact, like, I have a mental health issue because of the brain injury. I'm I'm still dealing with my depression, like, on a daily basis. And it's that's okay. And it's totally okay to have that. And and the more vulnerable I found, what's really weird, alpha male over here, strong pro type order guy, not the person you would think would be super vulnerable and open and tell you how much I appreciate you and and, like, really be soft. And, what I learned from the brain injuries, I was really into that kinda connection because you're looking for all that kind of that stuff. It's amazing when you're vulnerable and and open how that opens the door for people to be vulnerable and open to you. And doesn't mean you're, like, you cry, they're gonna cry, but maybe that means you cry and they cry. But, like, a hug, a a significant gesture each day can go a long way for people. And to soften yourself first is, like, the first step in in opening that door and and inviting in that community, inviting in that that connection because it's really vital. It's really important for our society, for humans, for each individual. You can't just be in your lane, new little bubble. It's it's just yeah. It's impossible.

Yeah. We're all starving for that vulnerability even if we don't realize it. And we're always, you know, sort of scared about, oh, god. Like, what are people gonna think? And at least when I've when I've done it, I'm sure you would say the same thing. This this judgment that we feel like we're gonna be met with, it never happens. It's like, oh my god. Thank you. Thank you for being so honest and and saying what everybody else was thinking, and it there's just a magic to it. And I gotta believe I mean, I imagine I just can't imagine what your young son, Flint, is gonna like, what a gift to be able to watch this documentary in a few years. You know, you'll have to be, like, figure out when he's old enough to watch it. But, like, what an amazing thing to be able to share that story with him in that way at some point.

Yeah. I mean Thank you. I think having it as, I hate to say, is like a photo memory of the incident. It's like it'll be something special that, like, hopefully, we'll you know, it just it encapsulates a really hard time in our life, and it's gonna be emotional and of course. But we've overcome so much. It's almost like we can celebrate that it captured that look because, like, look at where we are now. Like, yeah, that that feels like a celebration to me. And the goal is to release it in this year, twenty twenty six, primarily at film festival, as the first go because we're trying to still figure out how to fund it. We've been basically self funded the whole time, and and we're looking for, like, sponsorships and that. And that's, like, a whole crazy world. So we're trying to premiere it at Sundance or South by Southwest or something like that and kick this journey journey off. So but it's gonna be fun. And the reason why we haven't watched it is because it's really emotional and nervous and, like, oh, man. It's gonna be it's hard to it happened to us. It's our it's our life, but it's in the weird way, it's like the Jesse Vinton who's making it. It's like his story to tell. It's like he's the filmmaker that saw the process. It's too it's like almost too close to us to have, like, that

Yeah.

Intimate connection with it.

Yeah. I'm super excited about it. I hope it, you know, maybe get it into the Toronto International Film Festival because you come north of the border, and you could you could get me into the screening.

Oh, yeah. That one's on the list for sure.

And and if it wasn't for that documentary, if it wasn't for the trailer that I saw, this conversation never would have happened. It feels like we were able to pick up a conversation, Scentsy, that we started a couple of years ago. I'm just so honored that I got a chance to help you tell your story. Honestly, I've taken so many notes here. Your your life in a lot of ways couldn't be more different than my life and probably the life of a lot of people listening, but there's just so much richness around this story around resilience and reinvention and change and purpose. I mean, it's just there's something for everyone, and I I just I'm so grateful for this conversation.

Well, thank you for that. Yeah.

Thank you, Bob. We're super excited to, help other people and share the bit we've learned in our short time on this planet.